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Anonymous40784
 in response to mamashe/sheshe...   Hi girl,

This too shall come to pass.
We are all very hurt over the Susan/Chris deal. Even though we are in pain over the matter, it does say alot about us. It says that we are very loving compassionate people. It says we are not hypocrites. It says that we show charity & act like the L-rd commanded us to act toward one another. I'm sure 'we passed the test'. We should be proud of ourselves.
As for that Susan/Chris person, we have to 'look over' their 'faults' & see their 'needs'. Afterall, this is what we would want G-d to do for us.
My faith has been shaken too. But, I know I will heal from this eventually & get my spirit up off the ground.
I hope you are able to get to a place of healing also.
We have each other here. Let us take strength from this.

Sendind you hugs
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NikkiK
 in response to Anonymous40784...   Ekik thank you for your kind words. I live in Utah. PRETTY CLOSE! They were never even married is the sad part.

I too feel like I am very wise. I have taken the liberty upon my self to be an educated individual.
I hope nothing but the best for every one, but the best doesn't come free, it is earned.
I will never change, I hope you never change either. You are an amazing person with many kind thigs to say. You are very intellectual what a great quality!
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Anonymous40784
 in response to NikkiK...   You must live in California or one of those community property states.
Many couples have divorced & just date because of this (one spouse having to pay child support for other spouse's child). I don't think I could personally endure paying child support for another woman's child. I don't know what I would do if this occured. Maybe, change states! LOL

I wish you the best.
I didn't realize you were so young. You are very WISE.
Never change.
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Anonymous40784
 in response to CATLUV...   Hi C,

Thank you so much for your kind words.
I guess in all honesty, I really miss Susan(Chris) whoever she/he was. I miss all those sermons about G-d. They were so encouraging.
I am glad we have eachother (those regulars who are left on here).
I'm sure we will overcome this obstacle. It will take time to heal.
I'm sorry you are having health problems. I will most definitely be praying for you. Aww..sweetie, you are too young to have to go through all this.
Please post a prayer request on this prayer site:
http://www.prayway.com

I still need a surrogate child (prefer adult). Are you available to have another Mom?

Sending you love, hugs & cheer.
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NikkiK
 in response to CATLUV...   Oh that cam across wrong, my step daughter is 5 (I am actually only 25 my profile for some reason says I am 43) I pay very large amounts of child support to her Mother. I barely gross 45k a year. I pay about 1200 a month for one child, she has 2 children. One is my husbands child and the other is not. (even though she named said second child my husbands name.) I just think it is wrong to have children with someone then take the child completely out of the Fathers life and still expect a check for the child. I am financially obligated because of the fact that I married my husband. I think it stinks that the mother gets to sit home on her ass and collect my hard earned money his hard earned money and raise herslef, her convict boyfriend, and her children. ( I don't mind paying support for one child but the amount she get is enough for her whole family.)
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mamashe/sheshe
 in response to Anonymous40784...   Good Morning lovely lady, I am so glad you made this statement, I have been trying to find words that explained why I don't give much of a damn about posting anyone other than my friends. In fact I just don't much give a damn period and it has come out in so many facets of my dailey life. I am passed hurt now and well into furious and I would give anything if that woman could just face us and let us ask her what in the hell she thought she was going to get out of such a huge charrade. Even my faith is totally shaken and has brought me right back into my old suspicious and untrusting state of mind. I am however thankful to have had my best friends to help get through this crap. It is very obvious that aidpage has a black veil of total disconcern but it's still the only place I feel I can shed my tears and vent my anger. Thankyou sweetie for putting into such very simple words how devastated this site has become. I miss you so much and I hope you will hang on and stick this out for awhile, I know that most of us will not be here long but for now we're all we got if we need to discuss this huge joke paid on us. Take care...love and hugs sheshe
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mypassion2
 in response to CATLUV...   Cat, Did you ever hear of protection? I would only have sex with a woman after I got to her really well and then sometimes I would use protect against Syphilis. I was not out to score everynight, and would only have sex when I knew it was right and I had known her for a long time.
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mypassion2
 in response to CATLUV...   Hi Cat, No all of my children are mine and I was the best I could be to a father for them. My son is an engineer, 1 daughter is a Nurse, my second daughter is a teacher, and the last is a Manager. So I am proud of my offspring eventhough we went through some tough times.

Cat, you can ask anything you want my life is an open book. :-)
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Starshine
 in response to CATLUV...   smile
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CATLUV
 in response to Starshine...   Thanks, me too. The issue was getting a diagnosis ... it took over 4 years, a lot of pain and suffering, testing, struggling with doctors and the medical system. I have what they call "sero-negative" auto immune diseases, and so my blood work doesn't fit in the diagnostic criteria boxes which they like to rely on so much. But, my MRI's and other films show a very different story, and it's disturbing that the other docs I have seen didn't take the time to look at them after they didn't see anything on my blood panels but had so much with symptoms/clinical presentation .. there's a lot of damage, but I am so thankful and grateful that there are some treatment options to assist in freezing the disease progression where it's at. It will be a life long thing, treatments to look forward to, and while one of the disorders can go into remission the other one doesn't. Anyways, that's that and I am excited to get pieces of myself and my life back!
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Starshine
 in response to CATLUV...   hi cat
happy to here of new treatment for you
good healh you
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CATLUV
 in response to Anonymous40784...   Hi there,

Well I certainly understand .. it still makes my heart heavy to think of the hurt and hear your pain. It makes me sad to know you've lost that something in the ability to continue helping others, but it's very understandable .. and perhaps it will shift in the future sometime, as your heart needs to heal and that takes time. I know for myself that I go in spurts when it comes to writing, posting and sharing with/helping people here; sometimes my heart is not in it and it's too much to deal with, as so many problems become overwhelming and there are many out there whom are either scamming and/or mentally unstable/unhealthy, and they take and take and take, and it's hard to limit the energy output and not exhaust yourself emotionally, physically and spiritually when helping on the other side.
I am doing all right. It's been a very exhausting month in many respects, and I think I am trying to recover without slipping into a flare episode. I start new treatments at the beginning of the new month, following the final tests with my heart. My blood work came back in good standing to proceed, but there remains some concern with my heart and the worry that one of the auto immune diseases may have begun to attack my heart. Keep your fingers crossed that my body can take the treatments and that it will help freeze these disease progressions. I am nervous, scared, anxious and excited. I am just so grateful to have answers now and a direction for treatment to improve my quality of life and slow the damage throughout my body.
How are you feeling aside from the entire mess of emotions which have come from the Hurricane known as Susan? I hope it hasn't affected your physical body negatively as well ... but stress, strong emotion, pain, all of it, seem to creep into our bodies and manifest in a physical manner eventually .. with or without our knowledge, desire, consent, etc. unfortunately.
Sending you big hugs, Cat
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Anonymous40784
 in response to CATLUV...   hi there sweet girl,

You are probably right.
Yet, we have to pay a price for all of our actions.

I hope you are feeling better.

I was very hurt over the Susan/Chris deal. So much in fact, that I have 'lost' my desire to help others. And,thats not like me. Just tired of getting hurt in the process.

Hope you have a great night.
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CATLUV
 in response to mypassion2...   Can I say that Syphilis has been around for a very long time ... one of the "oldest" sexually transmitted diseases ... not fun and it will kill you eventually, and not in a pretty way. I can't speak to the 70's boy's, I was not here .. at least in this body! But, I don't think that the drive, desire, and mentality has changed much for the entire time we've been on this earth when it comes to "primal desires & behaviors" ... just "hidden" better at various periods in time throughout history. But, that's just my personal opinion. Might I add too, females are not nearly as innocent as some make them out to be ... many desire sex, and sex without strings/relationships, etc., and it's not always about "love" and "respect" for females either. Just saying.
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CATLUV
 in response to NikkiK...   Hi, I am sorry, this is out of left field, but what you shared surprised me and I am interested ... you pay for child support for your step child whom is no longer a minor? Did you adopt this child at some point? Obviously this is none of my business and you don't have to share or respond, but I was quite shocked and intrigued by this. Best to you, Cat
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CATLUV
 in response to mamashe/sheshe...   Well it's not just your daughter my dear!!! LOL. I think most females operate this way ... or at least the one's I have known. I thought the same, and did the same when I was a teenager, and even in my early twenties ... and it's not like I'm not "educated" or lacking wisdom or "street smarts" .. so to speak ... but I still, somewhere in the back of my little mind, thought of these "excuses" to live in that moment, .. and might I add, that typically the age group we're speaking of is the more likely bracket to be drinking, partying, what have you, much of the time when they have intercourse, especially when it's with a person they are not in a relationship with - whether it be a one night stand or a friends with benefits type of deal. And, well, we all know what that does to a person's reasoning abilities, behaviors, among other things.
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CATLUV
 in response to Anonymous40784...   Can I say that i think it has a lot to do with a person (a female, usually a young female) feeling as though they are not "loved" in this life, don't have good or healthy family support, and believe that by having children they will create a family, or someone to love them unconditionally, just as they've never experienced, wanted, needed, etc., ... just a piece of it, but i think it's a pretty big piece.
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NikkiK
 in response to bleu232...   Or take offense wither way it is no bother to me. I understand how a woman conceives...I am not a child.... Why would you have so many children if you can not afford them is my question?! WHY MAKE YOUR CHILDREN SUFFER!? IS THAT LOVE? IS THAT RESPONSIBLE? No I am not a man, no I don't sit in a bar, and yes I PAY child support for my step daughter, which is completely unfair that I get to raise a grown woman and her children (only one belongs to my husband) this society is ridiculous. WAIT you must be a woman who lives off of the ex's pay check because you are to lazy to get up and get your own!? SELFISH SHAME ON YOU!
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Starshine
 in response to mamashe/sheshe...   There is a bladder control health food store.
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mamashe/sheshe
 in response to CATLUV...   Hi Catluv, after reading your post to me I am convinced that you must have known my daughters, you hit the whole discussion right on the nose. Thanks sincerely mamashe
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